Three And Out: September 04, 2009

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Some quick San Diego Chargers news bits for the week, including where the Chargers Quarterback and Running Backs rank league-wide, the Chargers stance on a San Diego-based stadium, and the odds the Bolts will start the regular season 1-0...

(Photo Credit: Mike Nowak/San Diego Chargers)


The sparkling playmaking of Sproles got lost a bit last season in the obsession over how much Tomlinson had lost off his game. Even with Tomlinson putting up average numbers (for him, anyway), this was still easily a top-five tandem. Both backs can do it all offensively, and Sproles has a gear and change of direction that may only exist in a half dozen other players in the NFL.

Yahoo Sports: Which NFL rushing tandem is tops?


San Diego Chargers Special Counsel Mark Fabiani joined the team in 2002 and has been leading the effort to bring a new state-of-the-art stadium to the San Diego region for the past seven years at a cost of more than $10 million. Today Fabiani addressed issues raised in this morning’s San Diego Union-Tribune about the possible renovation of Qualcomm Stadium. Fabiani addresses question of stadium renovation


1. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts: What's left to ask other than if this is the year he'll win a record fourth MVP award?

2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots: Does he reprise 2007 success immediately, or will it take awhile to shed rust?

3. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints: League's most prolific passer since '06 is hoping for a more prolific defense so he can march back to playoffs.

4. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers: Expect him to continue proving the Packers were right to sever ties with Brett Favre when they did.

5. Kurt Warner, Arizona Cardinals: With NFL's top receiving duo, he should have another MVP-caliber year if hip surgery proves a non-issue.

6. Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia Eagles: The Eagles have more weapons, but will presumed Wildcat weapon Michael Vick help or hinder McNabb?

7. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers: Center Justin Hartwig says the Steelers now a pass-first team. Big Ben is the reason.

8. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers: No hardware just yet, but his stats have eclipsed 2004 draft mates Eli Manning and Roethlisberger.

Source: QB power rankings: There's Peyton, Tom and all the rest


While Friday’s game with the 49ers marks the end of the preseason, it is just the beginning of the Chargers-related odds action that hits with a flurry next week. The Bolts have won 5 of 6 preseason battles with San Fran, according to the folks at, who are providing Bolthype with a cool NFL odds feed this season.

But it’s looking ahead to Week 1 (where lines are already posted and the Bolts are favored by 9 points over the Raiders), where true Charger fans might be able to pocket some extra cash this year.

For example, if you think LT is going to bounce back to 2006 form, there is a proposition wager at Bodog that looks like easy money. They set LT’s rushing yard over-under at 1,150. You think he’ll get more, bet ‘over.’ They set his TD total at 13.5.

Charger traitors can bet ‘under’ if they think Sproles and age will eat into LT’s production. Speaking of Darren Sproles, Bodog set his combined rushing/receiving total at 570. Only 570!?

There are also Charger prop bets focused on Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates, Chris Chambers and Vincent Jackson. And don’t forget Shawne Merriman, whose sack total over-under was set at 12.5

Think the Chargers will be the highest-scoring team in the league in 2009? They are 8/1 underdogs. Think both AFC Wild Cards will come from the woeful West – that’s a 25/1 longshot. also tracks unique hometown football wagers where you bet whether the Chargers will get more wins in 2009 than the USC Trojans. USC is favored at -1 by the way. However, the Chargers vs UCLA Bruins win prop has the Bolts favored at -3.5 (meaning the Bruins need to win four more games than the Chargers to cover the bet).

September 4, 2009

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Ronald B. said... Sep 4, 2009, 1:29:00 PM

Aaron Rodgers is a better QB than Philip Rivers???! Based on what exactly? I swear the national media is a joke when it comes to covering sports. I much rather read informative sites like these than read national media coverage who don't know the details about the teams they are SUPPOSED to be covering...

Anonymous said... Sep 4, 2009, 3:15:00 PM

i agree with ronald^ how are they exactly ranking aron rodgers better then phillip rivers, i'm assuming these critics did not follow rivers career especially last year!!

Anonymous said... Sep 4, 2009, 6:56:00 PM

Aaron is way better than Rivers. Rivers is a joke. Slow, lumbering, completes passes by accident.

Anonymous said... Sep 4, 2009, 7:18:00 PM

Yeah Aaron is way better because of the ONE YEAR HE PLAYED... IN WHICH HE DID NOT HAVE BETTER NUMBERS OR RESULTS THAN RIVERS. Way to do your homework. By the way ask Green Bay fans about his productivity in the 4th quarter, cause it was suspect!

Anonymous said... Sep 4, 2009, 10:57:00 PM

Ronald and Friend. Exactly! Saying that Rodgers is a better QB is ridiculous. Will he ever be better?....good luck.

I can live with Brees being above Rivers and just disagree. Rivers has shown the clutch ability to bring his team back -- something that NFL clutch/superbowl champion QB's are known for. I cannot recall Brees bringing his team back for a victory. Loved Brees as QB since day drafted (yes a couple of questionable years) but showed that he was an elite QB. Don't see as much of Brees as a Saint but still can't recall when he orchestrated a major comeback.

Rivers may not be as polished as other QB's due to his awkward/low release and tendency to underthrow the long ball, but he continues to get big 1st downs and make the WR's around him better.

Brees -- great
Rivers -- better
Warner -- huge years but looked terrible in preseason
Roethlisberger -- Has two rings, also clutch
Mcnabb -- hot/cold; elite QB in my book
Peyton Manning -- awesome, top QB during his tenure
Brady -- Mr. Clutch, on pace to be best QB ever


Anonymous said... Sep 4, 2009, 10:58:00 PM

Huge point...
Rivers in 4th quarter and December. Bet.

Anonymous said... Sep 4, 2009, 11:33:00 PM

Rob, You got the Bolts favored by 3.5 games vs UCLA backwards. The Chargers need to win 4 more games than the Bruins to cover. The favored team always has a minus next to their number meaning they start "in the hole" by that many pts / games.

Neoplatonist Bolthead said... Sep 5, 2009, 10:59:00 AM

Rivers #8... yeah, right. I'd say #3 or 4, and the gap between (Rivers and Brees) and the other four guys on this list is at least as large as the gap between (Brady and Manning) and (Rivers and Brees). So yeah, Rivers is 4 spots too low on this list. Otherwise it's about right.

@ the guy who says Rivers completes passes by accident and sucks because he's slow... umm, no. Sorry. You don't throw 3:1 TD:Int on 8.4YPA with a 65% completion rate by accident, unless you mean that his freaky skills are an accident of birth and circumstance (then I'm with you). Yeah, he's really slow on his feet, as pro athletes go. Who cares? Speed of foot is a minor consideration for a quarterback. Elway played his whole career missing an ACL. Mobility is the argument bad QBs make to justify their poor decisions, or at best a somewhat beneficial trait that mitigates the consequences of a weak line. If you like your OL, having a mobile quarterback isn't that important unless he's Michael Vick. And I'd take Rivers over Vick any day.

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